Ep 1 YourNewRelease edited
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Stacey: [00:00:00] Okay, here we are, our inaugural episode of Your New Release Stories Shifts and the Books that Change Us, and I think our hook is what if the right book at the right time could change your entire career. In this podcast, we're diving into the books that shape how we coach, lead, and grow successful lives and businesses.
Does that sound right?
Kirsten: It sounds perfect. Good job.
Stacey: Okay, thanks. So I'm Stacy Ishman. I am a physician coach and business owner, and this podcast is all about the books that have influenced how we coach, lead, live, or maybe just help us do things 1% better. Kirsten, what do you think?
Kirsten: I think that's exactly it.
I think that. And both of us kinda get like nerd dopamine hits from books that we read, and they resonate with things that we've heard [00:01:00] differently, different times before. And yet when you're in a different place or you have different circumstances or whatever, you're meeting with different people, that it just kind of hits different.
And so even if it's a book that people have already read before, sometimes it's really good to have a conversation about that book based on where you are in your story right then.
Stacey: Can you tell us a little bit about your background, so we know how you got here and what kinds of things that you're trying to learn about?
Kirsten: Sure. Let's see. So like we said, I'm Kirsten Bombdiggity and I live in Indianapolis. And I started out my career in education as a teacher and then a principal. And then I was lucky enough to be a stay home mom for a number of years, and then I just worked my way around corporate America.
I've done management, I've done executive work and I was a. Executive assistant for a number of years and little by little my most recent long-term stint was with a company that helped doctors avoid burnout by investing in real estate. And that was where I met the beautiful Stacy Ishman.
And and our souls just kind of [00:02:00] connected that way. And we were like, oh, this is a lot of fun. And currently right now I am a full-time coach and consultant, and I am great at helping companies figure out like where they're leaving money on the table with their existing clients because raving fans are raving fans and everybody deserves to be a raving fan.
And then with as far as coaching goes. My goal is to just help people clarify and step into their favorite version of themselves and figure out maybe where they're getting in their own way a little bit, and how they can write a better story so that it's easier to dream their most audacious, ferociously ridiculous, wonderful, happy dream.
Stacey: Well, you're the first person too who I knew who was a Chief Experience Officer, which for me was a brand new title. But so encapsulates the fact that what you do is bring joy into the room and help people feel their own joy. So that is why I think you and I connected 'cause joy is one of those words that super resonates for me.
Kirsten: And part of the reason that I really like loved being in the Stacey Fan Club was, is because like you have this gift [00:03:00] of taking various. Like complicated, multilayered feels, thoughts, challenges, and like just filtering them down into one impact. Punch you in your fields, punch you in your brain, punch you in all your chakras, whatever it is like, and oh, it really is that simple.
And so to have you be this condenser of logic. And you ask very straightforward questions and it wasn't just like who you were showing up as, but it was also the safety in which who I could show up as that I could show up This kind of like imperfect, perfect person.
And I didn't have to have all the answers. I didn't have to have everything figured out. And the way that we could just balance ideas off each other and experiences and both of us had the curiosity to figure out is there a different story that we could write about these same exact circumstances?
Stacey: Yeah, and that's what I think people will learn is that you and I. Have lots of similarities, but also come from very, very different places. Like I am definitely more datadriven and methodical. And you're like squirrel sometimes, and you're like, with this [00:04:00] amazing idea that I'm like, oh, I never thought of that.
Kirsten: So yes we are.
Stacey: I love how they fit together
Kirsten: yes. ADHD and like major, highly skilled, ENT surgeon. Yeah. Like the two blend together perfectly. So I mean, it's obviously a match made in heaven. So here we are.
Stacey: Lemme explain. My background is I was telling Kirsten earlier, I was like, how far back do I need to go?
Like, when I was a janitor, a waitress or maybe that was too far back, that was like college. I'm an ear, nose and throat surgeon who became a real estate investor, which I love so that I could create some freedom for myself and. Stopped trading my money for time and then started syndicating real estate and working with the group Kirsten and I met through, which was a fantastic find 'cause that wasn't even what I showed up for.
And I met a group of peers who helped me really see that. What I wanted to do with my life was help other people figure out how they wanted to uplevel their life. And so I really focused on the group of people I'd been working with for 30 years, which is academic physicians. I really love working with mid and early career academic physicians who are trying to make sure that they just do all the things they always thought [00:05:00] they wanted to do, but find ways to really enjoy their life more along the way, and quite honestly, get there more efficiently and quickly.
I now am the Chief Medical officer of an insurance company, which is funny. It's usually the thing I mentioned last. I'm the founder of a coaching organization, which I love, and that's really where my passion lies. But I do have this multi-variable life all over the place. I'm a significant other.
I have between the two of us, five sons. And in my spare time I like to read books. And so here we are talking about books.
Kirsten: And puzzles.
Stacey: Tell us. Yeah. Oh, we're not gonna talk about the puzzles 'cause the one I'm with right now is terrible. But we don't have enough time to go over the puzzle. But don't get a puzzle that has 40 shades of brown.
It's the worst,
Kirsten: which is better than one shade of brown. Yeah,
Stacey: you can do it by shape. Anyway,
Kirsten: Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not a puzzle person at all. And so it just, I don't understand, like they had the picture perfectly put together and then they went and chopped it all up. This is so inefficient to me. Like I just don't get it.
So yeah we do bring the perfect balance. We [00:06:00] both have sons that are, my son's 23. I have one son, oh and we both have been divorced. That was another thing that we were able to talk about, was just kind of co-parenting successfully. I did have a book that came out in, october divorced after 40 an F yes guide to rewriting your second act. And so that's been a lot of fun because I think where you're focusing on like academic medicine and helping people figure out how to work smarter in their careers and how to get recognition and maybe just stop volunteering for the stuff that isn't gonna get them promoted. That isn't gonna get them recognition, but that is more of the stuff that like nobody really wants to do. Like how do they stop volunteering for stuff that doesn't really help them on their trajectory? And for me it's more of like an identity shift. Is it somebody that's gone through a divorce?
Is it somebody that is wanting to finish a book? Is it somebody that wants to start a new approach, start their own business? Whatever that case may be like. And sometimes an identity shift is just i'm tired of being a doormat to my mother. You know? So [00:07:00] whatever that case may be.
I think just figuring out, okay, what is the stories that I'm telling myself about who I am and how do I figure out, who I wanna be and how do I start moving that, like you said, the 1%. How do we figure out how to just keep moving and books are a great way to do that. So I know you and I are both book junkies.
Tell me a little bit about why you like, why they make you so intellectually horny.
Stacey: Okay, well this is your phrase, not mine.
Now you're giving a little flavor for the differences in style. And I would say probably wanna wrap it up in the next minute and a half so people don't have a three hour intro episode. But I do love for me, it's actually a way to wind down and then also a nice way for me to uplevel my life, like to realize that very small things can make a very big difference.
And so you might get one line in a book or quite honestly, our first book, I think there was a billion lines. So you were like, I'm gonna give my one big point. And I was like, I've got five minutes of points. But I do think, so our goal here is to do one book per [00:08:00] episode. We're gonna maybe bring in some guest people who write books, who love books.
Who can talk about books. We're gonna meet with you every other week. And then we really hope to share what we love about the books. So I can say that I find that I like when they help me escape. Like I get a little bit of, life, like my brain turns off and can focus in one thing.
'cause I have lots of movie tracks running at the same time. I don't know if that's ADHD or if that's really just over deeply overbooked is a phrase that we both learned and I love. But tell me what makes you love books.
Kirsten: I used to be a big fiction book junkie and I actually can't remember the last time I read a fiction book, but I always have a handful of nonfiction books, usually on personal development or business growth.
I have particular interest in applying narrative intelligence to that. Like how are we figuring out how to make the contact so that you actually get what I'm seeing and reading and trying to explain, but you also get what I'm feeling. And I think that is really where a lot of the books come in.
And [00:09:00] so, all of the books kind of have many crossover themes oh yeah, that was talked about in that a little bit that was talked about in that a little bit. But when you can approach it like, oh, from this angle or this lighting or whatever, sometimes it just, it makes all the difference in giving clarity and when we can attach that to an experience or a story.
Then I think it's much more likely to take root and to really help us change lives.
Stacey: Yeah, I think the story piece is so important and I love that that's how you've approached so many things in the work that you do. I will absolutely say I take a much more hyper-rational approach, so we will definitely see the difference.
I had a whole blog about how I couldn't remember how to do feelings, like, couldn't name them, couldn't figure out what I was feeling. So the feelings portion of the show will be Kirsten. Hyperrational parts for Stacy. We'll see how it goes.
Kirsten: And we're excited to have you along with us for the ride.
Stacey: Yes. So tell us if there are books that you wanna hear about, you wanna talk about, you want us to think about and [00:10:00] then, until we get to talk again, we hope you join us.
Listen to the actual podcast. Where we're gonna start going through some of our favorite books and what we've learned and how we feel about them. Well, not me. And then we'll go from there, Kirsten.
Kirsten: Exactly. All right. We'll see y'all soon.
Stacey: Thanks.
Kirsten: Bye.
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